Topic: Do bachelor degrees require a thesis
May 26, 2019 / By Jan Question:
Is this a reasonable amount of work to do in college as far as time?
Major in piano performance (Bachelor of Music) and 2nd 4-year degree Bachelor of Arts in History and minor in maybe political science, and have a job and plenty of practice time for piano, taking extra music theory and composition classes because I enjoy that too, and be in honors programs for the history and poli sci major/minor and still keep like 4.0?
and still get done in 4 years or a little more, including study abroad? also will have up to 8 AP credits and possibly music theory credit and some other placement tests to take also for credit to help
Epona | 6 days ago
I think it's a bit unrealistic, but only because music majors work their BUTTS off and barely make it, often taking the maximum amount of credits every semester (and sometimes more classes than that--many programs have 0 credit ensembles/etc. that are required to graduate). You could probably swing a double-major in piano performance and music history, but many history programs require a thesis as part of their completion. A minor in something totally unrelated would make it even more difficult to finish everything in time. Honors is again really difficult and requires tons of extra courses/work (depending on your school's program, that is).
The AP credits will help, and do look into whether it'd be possible to do what you want to do. But I will warn you, attempting this is going to drain the life out of you. My roommate was a music education major who had to schedule every single half hour of her day into classes, performances, practicing, and couldn't hold a job because everything else took up too much of her time. I barely saw her, save for the fact that we lived together.
The history degree does not lead to a job so why bother with it. Neither does Poli Sci.
Before the early 20th Century, a college degree was not meant to train a person for a job. A college education was for personal enrichment. To turn you into an educated person with skills in critical thinking to allow you to take up a career in public administration, the clergy or business where you would learn on the job.
There was no intention for a degree to train you for a specific career.
However since the 1940’s the expectation of the public about a college or university degree has changed and a college or university education is now expected to lead you to a career.
Unfortunately the college and university system has not changed with the times.
A degree in Anthropology, Archeology, Art, Art History Creative Writing, Film, General Studies, History, Humanities, Language & Culture, Liberal Arts, Liberal Studies, Literature, Political Science, most any language including English, Media, Music History, Paleontology, Photography, Philosophy, Religious Studies or Sociology is considered a "personal enrichment" degree. Also pretty well anything called “Something Studies”. That is, these degrees are degrees that are meant to enrich you personally in the classical sense of a university education without leading to any specific job.
These degrees sometimes result in a position in academia if you go on to get a PhD though there is an oversupply of PhDs for all the academic jobs that come up in these fields.
However, in today's world where people go to university to enable themselves to get a job and hopefully a career a bachelor's in these fields is essentially useless. With a degree in these fields and a GPA generally over 3.0 you can:
1. Get into law school. However law schools today graduate far more lawyers than there is business for lawyers.
2. Get into graduate school in a different field. Hopefully one without too many prerequisites you do not have. Consider getting a masters in Technology Management. You can make a similar salary to an engineer but you need essentially no sciences prerequisites.
3. Get into graduate school in the same field and eventually into a PhD so you can become a college professor in this field someday. However, there are far more PhD grads in some fields like Philosophy than there ever will be professorships or any kind of teaching programs.
4. Take a teaching qualification, which is usually 2 more years, so you can teach the subject at a public K-12 school.
5. Look for a job in a field where they want you to have a degree without any concern what it is. Where they only want the degree because they want educated people who have proven they can stick with something difficult and see it to completion. Like the insurance industry.
6. If you join the military you are more likely to enter as an officer instead of enlisted personnel.
Do note that if you do go for a more advanced degree, no one cares where you got your bachelor’s degree. Only the school where you got your most advanced degree counts. And that counts for a lot less than the name schools would have you believe.
If your GPA is over 3.0, don’t take a second undergrad degree if you already have one of these degrees. A graduate degree will be more valuable to you.
So, what exactly IS an English major supposed to do after college?
Here is a listing of the average starting and mid-career salaries for most 4 year majors.
The ones with the highest salaries are the ones in the most demand by employers. And the higher they pay, the harder they are. And remember this survey only covers the students who got a job in their field of study. The lower paid the job on this list, the few the number of graduates in a particular major got a job in their field.
The Highest Starting Salaries of 2010