Should I vaccinate my baby?

Should I vaccinate my baby? Topic: Developing a research question uk
July 22, 2019 / By Edith
Question: Why are there so few cases of autism in the AMish?Why did they wait to vaccinate kids in europe until a child was between 4 and 6 years old,but it is no linger done?
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Charita Charita | 9 days ago
This is a really good question. I was told by one of the researchers sponsored by the British government to research the autism/MMR question, that their findings were that there was a definite connection between the MMR and autism, but the government totally altered their findings and then threatened to have them struck off and/or never allow them to work in the UK again if they caused any trouble. It helps if you look at your extended family - there is usually a genetic factor with autism and the MMR may be just a trigger for some children who are genetically inclined to autism. There may not be anyone diagnosed with autism, but if there are family members who are bad communicators it may be worth trying to get separate inoculations done and at a later date. I have 2 autistic children. They had the MMR innoculation, before there was any suspicion of a link, but they were both born with autism so I can't say it was triggered by the MMR. However, autism is so horrifyingly awful (I would do anything to stop the suffering of my now adult children) I really believe it is worth anything to avoid even one more child developing this cruel disability.
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Charita Originally Answered: Should I vaccinate my baby?
I chose to not vaccinate my kids at all. They are 6 years and 2 years, and are extremely healthy. At checkups their doctor always expresses amazement at their exceedingly good health. Apparently it's pretty rare these days for kids to never have had an ear infection, and to not have any chronic health problem such as allergies, asthma, or eczema. Learning and behavior problems are also very common these days. My kids don't have any problems in that area, either. Both my kids have had chickenpox. One has had swine flu and pertussis (whooping cough), and the other has had measles. Not once during or after these illnesses did I wish even a tiny bit that I had vaccinated them. They were sick, and then they got better. That does not happen with chronic illnesses and autism. Those are usually for life, unless a DAN! doctor helps, and even then recovery takes years of hard work and a lot of money, and full recovery is not always possible. Even one vaccine can cause health problems or a vaccine injury. You can find the vaccine package inserts for every vaccine licensed in the United States, here. http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccine... They list the ingredients and many, but not all the possible adverse reactions. From my experience, life is better without vaccines. Your child is now 7 months, and pertussis is not really a concern after 6 months old. Diphtheria is exceedingly rare, and tetanus is about 30 cases per year in the U.S., with a large proportion of cases being in heroin users and people over 40. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/Pubs/pinkboo... Hepatitis B is a disease of sex and drug use. There hasn't been a single natural case of polio (not caused by the vaccine) in the U.S. since 1979. And since the live virus oral polio vaccine was discontinued in 2000, there have been zero cases of polio in the U.S., from any cause. Your child is too old to get the rotavirus vaccine. The chickenpox vaccine is a joke (the only reason they put it on the schedule was with the argument that it would keep parents from having to take time off work to care for their sick child). Measles, mumps, and rubella are pretty rare, but still possible to get. They are not a big deal at all. I don't know if you remember the huge measles outbreak of 2008, involving 131 people in the U.S.. Well, everyone survived, and nobody had any lasting health effects. And from personal experience with my child, I know measles is not a big deal. Rubella is so mild in children it often causes no symptoms at all. Hepatitis A is also usually very mild, even asymptomatic in children. It can be a bigger deal for adults, so it's actually better to get it as a child, which is also true of measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox. Since the Hib and Prevnar vaccines came out, infections from those particular bacteria have been reduced, but other bacteria have taken their place. Why do kids need this many vaccines these days? http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedul... Were kids dropping dead in the streets in 1983? Only DTaP, polio, and MMR were given then. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/images/schedule1983s.jpg

Antonia Antonia
First of all, the Amish have the same rate of autism as every other group. There is believed to be both a genetic and trigger factor involved. While there is no evidence that vaccinations cause autism, there is evidence of complications for children under a year old. In Japan, they delay most vaccinations until 2 years old. The US requires vaccination to enter school between the ages of 5 and 7. Some states require a child to be vaccinated in licensed day care. If you don't put your kid into day care, you can vaccinate at your leisure when your child is older. If you want to delay vaccinations until your child is older, find day care that doesn't care and just plan on a schedule to start say at age w2 or so. I plan to delay until 2 but we have a family history of allergy. I can't tell you what to do. I am pro-vaccine. I just think many current vaccinations are given too young, increasing the rates of serious complications. Denial by medical people doesn't make it go away.
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Zackary Zackary
Nobody really knows what causes autism although the risk does seem to be related to genetics. The Amish community might simply have a lower risk due to the genetic background of couples, but it's important to state that they do have increased risks of metabolic disorders. In other words, one cannot conclude that because the Amish do not vaccinate this reduces their risk of autism. If you applied that logic then you could also wrongly conclude that by not vaccinating children, the Amish increase their risk of metabolic disorders. In Europe there was a major health scare in which news media picked up a single scientific paper that suggested a link between autism and the MMR vaccinations. Parents obviously were concerned and hence people waited until the children were older. The result was an increased death rate of infants from measles. In the UK, the number of reported measles cases increased from 56 cases in 1998 to 1348 with 2 confirmed deaths in 2008 when the immunization rate dropped from ~92% to ~80%. The author, Andrew Wakefield, of the report was subsequently struck from the medical register after a 217 day professional misconduct hearing. So in answer to your question, as a registered nurse, yes. There's absolutely no proof that autism is connected to the vaccinations and the risks from measles are increasing because our immunisation rates are dropping. If a child develops autism, everything we know tells us that child would have developed autism anyway, regardless of the vaccination. If a child develops measles, and suffers complications from that, and it could have been prevented, then I'm afraid that'll always rest with the parents decision. And, sorry to be blunt, but I'd be deeply critical of that decision and those parents having watched infants suffering from pneumonia - one of the possible consequences of measles infection.
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Shimhi Shimhi
The sooner a child is vaccinated, the sooner they;'re protected. Far better to protect a baby at 6 months from meningitis than leave them exposed to it during the peak ages of cases- 4 to 6 year olds! And vaccinations do not cause autism in any shape or form. Measles, however, can and does kill. There are probably so few cases of autism in Amish people because there is a genetic tendency to autism and as Amish people all marry other Amish people and the gene isn't prevalent amongst these people then their offspring doesn't have it either. And as Amish people tend to avoid medical treatment it's highly unlikely they'd have a child showing austistic trends assessed for the condition. However in the general population people conceive with other from all backgrounds and genetic gene pools so it's more likely.
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Oberon Oberon
Yes, you should vaccinate your child. If you have serious concerns, then talk to your doctor about a delayed schedule, but all children should be vaccinated against the diseases that we are so fortunate to be able to prevent. People get so caught up in this phantom link between autism and vaccination, that they forget that children used to die of these diseases that we've eradicated (diseaes that WILL come back if parents choose to stop vaccinating). 50 years ago, my mother almost died of acute pancreatitis brought on by Mumps - and that's one of the more minor diseases that we vaccinate against nowadays. As a couple of others have pointed out, it's really not fair to compare the Amish vs. the rest of the population, because it is a much smaller sample size and a very different way of life. They may have the same Autism rate, but less of a tendency to seek treatment or properly diagnose it. They also life much more simplistic lifestyles (fewer environmental toxins, different diets). There are a number of other differences that could cause a lower rate of certain diseases.
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Lanny Lanny
How many Amish children are tested for Autism? Not many, I would suppose. They probably just do the best they can, unless it is very severe. Vaccines have been a victim of their own success. Few people today know anyone who has polio or is affected by having had a severe case of measles. But as fewer kids are vaccinated, herd immunity will be reduced, and these diseases will come back. You don't want your child to be one of those who gets one of the conditions.
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Itai Itai
THe Amish are a small community. So yes, there will be fewer cases than in a large population. And the Amish generally avoid medical care unless clearly needed, and public schooling, so the milder cases of ASD would not be diagnosed. (Though, Pubmed cites two studies finding that certain genetic mutations leading to Autistic symptoms are common in the Amish.) Vaccines have been given at different times, depending on the particular vaccine and medical practices at the time. I can find no direct evidence that vaccine schedules in Europe used to be significantly different. (One site from France in 2003 gives a schedule similar to that in the U.S.)
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Ferdy Ferdy
I wonder how much prenatal ultrasound the Amish have. Look at the link between prenatal ultrasound and autism on the internet.
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Ferdy Originally Answered: Anyone who did not vaccinate?
I don't know how the hospitals are in your state, but in mine the babies are kept in the recovery room with mom. So, if it's the same there then you will pretty much know what's going on with your baby at all times. I don't believe this is something your OBGYN would handle, but yes you should make sure the nurses are aware when you go to the hospital. You need to find a pediatrician or family doctor that is supportive of no vaccinations. I have heard of doctors refusing to keep patients who don't get their shots. It would suck to deal with that after your baby arrives. My first pediatrician was a real b**** about it, but luckily we found an awesome doctor who is very supportive of our concerns and decisions. No matter what, you are going to get a lot of slack from people about choosing not to vaccinate. This is a very heated issue for many people in the medical profession as well as parents. Ultimately, it is your decision and NOBODY can force you to get your baby shots, but they can definitely try and they most likely will. If you are serious about this, I recommend that you do A LOT of research and know your stuff so that you can defend your decision when you need to. Or, you can always just tell people it's none of their business. I chose to get my daughter the vaccines that I felt were the most necessary. I was still uneasy about getting just a few and after she had a reaction to her 2 month shots, I stopped getting them for a while. I was so stressed out about the decision. It sucked always wondering if she might have whooping cough with every cold she got! But what if she DIES from the shots!? THEN she got really sick when she was about 9 months with a bad fever, rash, not eating, and other symptoms and I was REALLY freaking out, wondering if she might have meningitis or something like that. That's when I realized that I was more worried about a few of the illnesses than I was the shots. I made a plan with my doctor to give her ONE at a time so that if she had a reaction we would know which one it was and we could stop giving that one. So far it's going wonderful! I wish you the best of luck!

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